Bigggg problem. (Superchargers)

[h.chaisson@live.com]

Okay, so my car is smoking bad on start up for a couple seconds and burns off. It is also going through quite a bit of oil. I was told when I bought the car that there was a leak in the supercharger? Hopefully this is true and not something else they might have lied about. My problem is, Two of the major producers of rebuilt superchargers no longer produce the Millenia supercharger. This is a problem because I need one and it's hard to trust getting one off ebay or anything because of possibly buying one just as bad as I have now. If anyone has one for sale that is in good condition and working order, or knows of a company that rebuilds/sells them please let me know. By the way, I live in Canada. Thank you very much ahead of time. PS: the two companies that no longer rebuild/sell Mazda Millenia superchargers are PSE Superchargers and Superchargerpros.

[voltagenh]

hey im in canada too...

anyhow, i dont know exactly your issue.

but heres mine..

when i first start the car in the morning, it smokes bad.

bluish smoke.


took it to a mechanic who seems to really know his ****.

he told me its one of 2 things.

valve cover gasket. well not the gasket itself, but the spark plug seals that are part of the gasket.

or its the valve stem seals.



the reason I beleive it to be true is because oil to smoke means fire was involved.

now im not a mechanic at all, just learning as I go.. but i am fairly certain the SC has nothing to do with the burning of oil.

again not sure if this is your case.. but kinda sounds like it.

also there is this article to read a bit about.

Right From the Horse's Mouth

[h.chaisson@live.com]

Originally Posted by voltagenh

hey im in canada too...

anyhow, i dont know exactly your issue.

but heres mine..

when i first start the car in the morning, it smokes bad.

bluish smoke.


took it to a mechanic who seems to really know his ****.

he told me its one of 2 things.

valve cover gasket. well not the gasket itself, but the spark plug seals that are part of the gasket.

or its the valve stem seals.



the reason I beleive it to be true is because oil to smoke means fire was involved.

now im not a mechanic at all, just learning as I go.. but i am fairly certain the SC has nothing to do with the burning of oil.

again not sure if this is your case.. but kinda sounds like it.

also there is this article to read a bit about.

Right From the Horse's Mouth

Hey, . Thanks a lot for the reply and I read that whole 6 pages or so and could not find the actual article on how to do the catch can or what it is and what not. I just went off by what everyone else was saying. Is there a way to get the article for me? Apparently my S/C has a leak in the gasket a mechanic told the person i bought the car from. So maybe this "catch can" theory can help me. It seems so good but yet I can't get to read it haha.

[wilfredom]

Originally Posted by voltagenh

when i first start the car in the morning, it smokes bad.
bluish smoke.
took it to a mechanic who seems to really know his ****.
its the valve stem seals.
Right From the Horse's Mouth

Thats my pick .. blueish smoke = oil burning
Black smoke = wrong fuel/air mixture

[voltagenh]

Originally Posted by h.chaisson@live.com

Hey, . Thanks a lot for the reply and I read that whole 6 pages or so and could not find the actual article on how to do the catch can or what it is and what not. I just went off by what everyone else was saying. Is there a way to get the article for me? Apparently my S/C has a leak in the gasket a mechanic told the person i bought the car from. So maybe this "catch can" theory can help me. It seems so good but yet I can't get to read it haha.

here you go


http://tinyurl.com/2ulpbts

[Xedosman]

The link doesn't work.

If a valve cover gasket causes smoke, it would be from burning oil on the exhaust manifold and not through the exhaust. And there are no spark plug seals on the gasket, rather seals of the sparkplug holes. So Voltagenh, it seems your mechanic is abit short of general knowledge as this applies to most cars with sparkplug holes through the valvecovers.

Valve stem seals can cause smoke through the exhaust, this is correct and happends to most cars when milage piles up. But when it comes to this particular car, seal failure in the supercharger is the most likely cause of blue startup smoke. If the 2,3 isn't notorious, it's at least a common issue.

Chaisson, to verify your supercharger condition, unbolt the cover on top of it, this reveals the rotors. If they are either soaked in oil or covered with a black layer, the SC is toast. If they are mainly yellow, it should be ok.

Like this means ok:

[voltagenh]

except those 3 seals right there.

if they are leaking then oil will get into the sparkplugs, and sit in the cylinder.

[voltagenh]

also the link works.

[wilfredom]

Originally Posted by Xedosman

The link doesn't work.



Valve stem seals can cause BLUE smoke through the exhaust,for a moment after you start the engine this is correct and happends to most cars when milage piles up. But when it comes to this particular car, seal failure in the supercharger is the most likely cause of blue startup smoke.

EDITED BY yours trully ..

[Xedosman]

I can see you refined my post

Voltagenh, oil leaking into the plugholes will not enter the cylinders unless you take out the plug prior to wiping out the oil. What the oil often will cause is misfire, if level climbs enough.