sluggish millenia s/other issues

[bigb]

now that my temper has tempered hehe

Travis, understand it from our perspective. We get 2-3 guys posting similar stuff like this per day. we've all tried many times to help them in more detail and they dont even post back or contribute other than their 1 or 2 posts asking for help.

so in your case sorry if I was short but we all get a little frustrated sometimes. I gave you your answer in the very first post even if it was in a bit of a rood way. after all is said and done go back and read my first replay and you will see that what I said was truth. I can write you an essay on the feedback control system of this car and why your evap code causes the symptoms you describe. and if you are around in a few weeks to ask for it I'd be happy to share my knowledge.

the real truth will come in a month when you are / or are not still posting on here once your problem is resolved.

[keninn]

be more truthful. some dumbass posts that their car is sluggish, stalls, lousy fuel economy, yada, yada, and, "oh yeah, the check engine lite is on, has been for xxxx" and then wants to know why it is not performing. how the heck can the car perform if it is in open loop? even worse, when it is in limp home, ce flashing, "what can i do?" just recently some bozo posted something about his transmission, i forget what exactly. so i replied, and tried to help; several of us did. then, after several posts, he says his check engine lite is on. so now everything posted is USELESS. THE CAR IS IN OPEN LOOP. if you are dumb enough to drive around with the ce lite on, you are beyond help

[TravisJamesBarrett]

sorry bigb, i intend to help people as I learn, ill admit this engine is complicated but nothing I cant figure out with a little guidance from people like you giving me a nudge in the right direction.
I have no doubt your tall lol as am I I drive that car maxed out in the seat, all the way back, and think a ghetto lean is just short of ridiculous.
Sorry for my temper I know your all trying to help, I just have only experience with my own cars and most have been older general motors vehicles.
as ive said before I intend to pass on any knowledge I obtain to people on this forum in the future anything taught to me will be passed on.
SUPRISINGLY to me the car behaves 100% better and has yet to throw a code since replacing that line.
Although I admit it is a bit sluggish still and hasnt yet put a cel back, only off the line. is that the nature of the car or possibly there may be another underlying problem?
thanks in advance both of you again sorry for my temper. I guess ive been short tempered with all the changes in life going on right now. I have a pregnant fiance and want to get her car in as perfect working order as I can, im sure you can understand that.
thanks for the welcome to the forum ill be here for years to come, its a beautiful car and i intend to keep it for as long as I can, to be honest I like it better than my cadillac, but dont tell the cadillac guys that lol

[TravisJamesBarrett]

although kevin, cel does not usually indicate open loop from my experience. mostly it is something small like a bad gas cap, o2 sensor etc and doesnt seem to affect the performance od the car.
Thats my personal experience, I haven't experienced a lack of performance from an emissions code before but this time I have. It IS much better now but still seems to be lacking a bit in the bottom end but im not looking for performance just a good car for the wife to drive around safely

[bigb]

the millenia is not a GM. you need to forget everything you know or this car will bring you to your knees. I'm not exaggerating either. beautiful to drive and a pleasure once you figure it out, but **** is this car merciless when it wants to beat you down and make you feel stupid.

the only thing worse than a person who knows nothing with this car, is someone who thinks they know something. as you found out, CEL on this car not equal to gas cap

at least you learned and the experience was fairly painless. some other people have been $$$$ in the hole replacing parts that were perfectly fine because even their mechanic didn't know what they were doing.

[TravisJamesBarrett]

I know what its like to buy parts for this car too, harmonic balancer went bad, it wasnt nearly as hard to pull off the belts as I had read. and the install on that was a breeze. But it cost **** near $400 for the thing.
Yeah and for p0455 I think it was. all the mechanics know told me dont waste money fixing that problem, you could throw a few hundred at just finding out what it does and it wont make a differance on how the car drives.
Im just going to investigate more thoroughly next time a cel comes on and not dismiss it even if it has a "stupid code"
However the car still isnt as quick as I would have expected. But I cant expect anyone on here to diagnose that by a description

[bigb]

I know we got off on the wrong foot, but next time you can PM me or ask around on the forum for spare parts. For example, I have a spare balancer sitting here on my workbench that would have cost you a grand total of $35 with maybe $10-15 in shipping since you are in Canada and it's cheaper (i'm in Toronto). Beats the **** out of a $400 new one. Same goes for about any other part you can imagine from headlights to A-pillar trim. I have quite the stash of 2.3 parts.

second, for the slugishness there is a little experiment you can try. use the hold button and try the car off the stop. if it feels like it has more power, the problem or loss of effeciency is probably in the tranny, be it the tranny fluid has sheared and is lower viscosity than new, or the torquie converter is not doing it's job.

if the car feels the same than the problem is the source of the power (the engine) and you could have anyhing from poor vacuum, clogged cats, what oil do you use?, etc

another avenue to look is the tire pressure. when cold from the night before check the tire pressure. I find 34/32 front/rear gives a noticable difference in pep. could it be that the temp dropped and just the PSI is low?

also, you can look at fuel consumption for a guide to slugishness. if you get crap MPG then you could have draging breaks, or other poor engine performance which also lead to less "zip" in the car.

those are just some areas to start thinking about

and, in light of the evap leak you've been having I would say your gas is stale. throw in some fuel stabilizer and drive it for a few tanks. then replace the fuel filter and see if it gets beter. evaporating gas makes the octane number drop since the volitility of the fuel decreases.

[TravisJamesBarrett]

very interesting. Its mostly a little slow off the line, it downshifts and goes much better than before now. Never thought of the stale gas, I did have her run it to empty though. I thought I was going to have to remove the tank before yel-low advised me that there is more than one access port.
I didnt get every single service record with the car but im going to go over what I do have and see what was done and when. I do know that whoever did the services definately didnt want to change the plugs they must have been original. It uses some oil, I use 10w30 penzoil I believe is what I changed it with last time.
Im going to do some exploring theres too many things I dont know myself yet, Im going to narrow everything down and then maybe once im stuck you guys can help lol
Also I WILL definately pm you next time for parts. And the wrong foot, that stuff happens sometimes its never a big deal