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Old 01-17-2007, 01:15 PM
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So call around, get ahold of the streetracers and the import guys and find out who does good work.

I get a phone quote of 325bux for custom exhaust (catback) and head in.
he made an error.. no flexpipe.. and the entire system, all three catalytic converters were wrecked, my resonator and muffler were leaking, and the pipe was rusted.

So im like okay... you gave me a quote, whatre we gonna do about it?
And hes like ok its a totally different system than my computer listed when i looked up the car, so lets work out a deal on something special.

I described to the guy the exact tone i wanted, including examples of what i DIDNT want...
and left it in his hands.

What i ended up with was 2 hollowed out small cats up inside the engine area, that couldnt be removed, new pipe from there on back, into two "Twister" brand resonators.. (with the turbines inside) they spin up, inline, one feeds the next in series... and a custom tip..
the piping was pretty nicely done too... and these twisters are pimp.. he gavem to me at store cost which was a couple hundred each still. One spins up just ahead of the other creating a real nice two-tone effect, nice and LOWWWWW toned, and strong.... sounds like a tuned up small v8. rumbles and roars... its loud but its not CRAZY loud.. it turns heads... and people give me an appreciative smile and nod.. not a scowl and **** cuz im overpowering them with noise.

Yes it was an expensive shop, his labour rate was 10bux an hour higher than anywhere else and they did a fair amount of work.. they worked on it for almost 4 hours which is double what they take to do a basic setup.

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and if anyone needs anything MJ at Park Muffler in sherwood park alberta is a cool ****, he knew what i wanted from my talk with him, i was VERY specific and he was BANG on, had it sounded like anything other than what was in my head i woulda had him rip it all out.

He mounted the tip directly onto the rear resonator, to avoid having a narrow piece of pipe in between the tip and the resonator.





Theres two of the catalytic converters right up under the engine... When i twin turbo this thing theyre all getting redone anyhow so.. why pay to havem all ripped out and basically end up having new headers made.





ALSO, although i did get him to give me cost on the resonators and show me the paperwork to prove it, i didnt want to jew him real hard for another 50 or 100bux off... since its all custom work, i have this policy of paying a fair price not just hitting hard for the cheapest deal, cuz i want these guys to do good work and not take shortcuts.

Ive had it at 2 other import tuner shops in town and they all admire the quality of the work, nice solid pipe, beautiful welds...
took the impact of the entire car with no wheels on, falling onto it, and just dented one pipe very slightly... no leaks or anything.

Comments? **** this thing sounds like sex
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Old 01-17-2007, 02:44 PM
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Dont want to sound like an *******, but I got the exact thing done for 500 (plus 75 for the dual tip which I hate because its loud as **** with a strange echo effect).

He charged a little over 100 for labor, less than 2hr job.

I too kept the pre-cats because they were totaly burned out and he advised me the extra cost wouldent be worth the gain, and could do it later if needed.
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500 USD = 600 CAD
you got twisters? theyre not available many places...
my tip was 80 and almost 4 hours labour... 2 guys... although it mightve only been 2-3hours work and they jsut had the car there for like 4 hours and a bit...

so yeah i dont feel too bad alot of the materials and parts are cheaper in the states too..

Mazda OEM Thermostat up here is 46 CAD at a dealership
Same one at a dealership in georgia where i ordered one from, 18 USD plus shipping.

ive found most of my parts to be similarly disparate in pricing.
stands to reason made in america components like resonators will be cheaper down there too a bit.

overall a hundred bucks difference im happy with considering the quality of their work

duals on a v6 would suck ass... like true dual exhaust..
the tips i saw that were dual looked like ass, this one i got has an interesting angle and its real nice classy but not flashy
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Only 100 diff? reading your other post I thought you spent 2000. My mistake. btw I dont have dual exhuast pipes its a dual tip. and yea it, sucks ass (why i get the echo effect somtimes that seems to drown out anything your saying, listening to or even thinking for that matter). The only reason Ive kept it is because its unique sound.
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naw lol it came to 1140 then i got him to give me cost on the parts that he originally didnt think id need, plus a bit of a deal on the tip.
total 740 Cash CAD or about 650 USD maybe.

idve paid 2 grand if theyd custom built new headers

i dont have an echo sound thatd be awful i think, do u like how it sounds from outside the car?

mine is two-tone, and low, not tinny or ricey.. and even when the engine was in **** state that thing sounded pimp.

one twister woulda sounded deece
but adding that second one right at the end by the tip, was genius... you really gotta give props to people who know their work enough, and kmnow how to run a business enough that they truly consult with the client, who isnt an expert or anything, ask the right questions, really care about what i want, and then, deliver it, on budget, with quality work.

that alone would bring me back, price notwithstanding
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no ,like a Ceasna geting ready to take off, raspy yet throaty. Its the last bend to the tip (too much), more exhaust out the right side, sometimes sucking air though the left.
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thats awful id get that redone asap.
having a unique sound isnt cool if its a godawful racket.

im not a fan of dual tips to begin with,.. usually i see them years down the road and like one is dirty and one is clean cuz its fake dual, or they just look wrong cuz you know the car cant be dual.. or. something
or nowaddays with the square ones,. uuuughies.

i like the throaty sound tho.. mines got a bit of that

almost like what the 351 in my old f150 put out.
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Hi having redone my exhaust on the 929 over and over again i know quite a bit about it. The reason your mechanics don't take off the cats is because they know how much of a pain in the ass it is to take off the y-pipe. The studs that it mounts on rust out and usually you end up snapping that stud. So they leave it alone. The supper "twister" resonator wont do anything performance-wise, its like those tb spacers that guarantee 20hp. The pipe isn't mandrel bent so 500$ is right around what an exhaust like that costs . I've built and exhaust system for 300$ mandrel bent for my sho and 150$ of it were the cats. The guy did a horrible job on the hangers but his welds look alright. Achieving the drone sound with the je isnt hard and thats why all of our exhaust systems sound like that, the hard thing about making a je exhaust is to gain power throughout the powerband and keeping it quite. After thinking about power gains and such it makes sense to me now to transplant another engine into the car. Preferably an engine with a huge aftermarket like an LS1 or the new vett engine.

On another note, if you are willing to pay 2k us for a set of headers i can build them for you.
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ill think about it, we're gonna do a rebuild and make the engine suitable for parallel twin turbo... so i wouldnt really need the headers if that happened.... id need special manifolds to replace them
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Thats awesome i've always wanted the engien twinned, how are you planing on controling the EFI? I would guess you wouldnt need special manifolds unless you are running above 15 psi, but i guess you'll have to cross that and many other bridges when you get there.

If you want higher flow headers you can just extrudehone a set , but Mazda designed these headers this way for a reason so I'm not sure you will see much gain maybe top end but you would loose the bottom.
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