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Old 11-18-2004, 01:08 AM
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what year did ford get involved with mazda, and whats the whole deal with that? do they make alot of the parts in mazdas now or what, my boss bought a 2004 tribute a year ago and the back of his keyless entry says FORD on it
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Old 11-18-2004, 03:31 AM
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not sure what year exactly............but roughly...
tribute = escape
b series = ranger
navajo = explorer
probe, 626, mx6, millenia; all can have the same 2.5L if i'm not mistaken
volvo (owned by ford) also shares at least one of it's smaller car's chassis with the mazda 3 i believe

since the 2.5L millenia shares an engine with the probe (supposedly the probe engines were mazda made) the partnership would have had to be in place at least in 94/95, but i dunno if that was an agreement between the two or because ford owned 3x% stock in mazda at the time...

aand yes, i know there can be some big differences between the mazda and the ford, but for the most part they are very similar, just different badging...
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theres been ford badged mazdas since the 80's'. 626/Telstar, 323/Laser, 121/Festiva, MX-6/Probe etc. don't know how the partnership started, probably because back then ford weren't making enough cars for those market segments or maybe something to do with pricing since it costs more to design a new car then to license an existing design, maybe asian manufactured is cheaper too. ford owns about 30% of mazda now, ever since mazda went way downhill & almost disappeared due to their poor marketing & profits. with ford in control of the financing side of mazda, the manufacturer is now seeing much of the good money & a whole new lineup of models.

ford also owns jaguar as well
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which is not necessarily a good thing
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how is a new lineup a bad thing for mazda latino...
ford owns or has a significant amount of stock in mazda, jaguar, volvo, lincoln, mercury, and i believe (but am not sure about) land rover or range rover...always forget which one
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The breakdown of mazda's relation to ford is somthing like this.

There is a section of the Ford motor company called the Premier AUto Group (PAG)

under PAG the business operations of Astin Martin, Jaguar, Land Rover (which owns range rover)and Volvo are combined. Lincoln was under PAG control until the firestone tire recall when Ford chose to take it out of PAG and bring it back to complete american control.

Ford also sells cars under more than one marque not involved with PAG. Mercury, lincoln, at one time the Edsel, Merkur until 88.

Mazda is involved with an alliance with the soviet union started in 1929 called GAZ. Under that agreement Ford makes Pobeda, ZIM, Volga and the luxury car Chaika

The international Auto Alliance is the division that has to do with Mazda. Ford owns 33% of Mazda shares and has a joint facility in Flat Rock, Michigan. It originally produced the Mazda MX-6, Ford Probe, and Mazda 626, as well as the final version of the Mercury Cougar. It now produces the Mazda Mazda6 and is scheduled to assemble the next version of the Ford Mustang in 2005. The Ford Motor Company has owned 25% of Mazda since 1979, it wasn't increased to 33% controlling interest until 1992.

Another Brand under Ford control is Hertz rental cars.
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my 929 is been build in a ford plant in 93
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how is a new lineup a bad thing for mazda latino...
ford owns or has a significant amount of stock in mazda, jaguar, volvo, lincoln, mercury, and i believe (but am not sure about) land rover or range rover...always forget which one
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i am talking about ford "owning jaguar as well"
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Ford has had a relationship with Mazda since roughly 1972, when they bought a small portion of Toyo Kogyo stock and began rebadging Mazda B-series pickups for American sale as the Ford Courier. Later on, as the fuel crisis challenged American makers to add fuel economy to their vehicles, Ford bought diesel engines from Mazda for use in the Escort/Lynx and Tempo/Topaz lines.

The link grew stronger in 1988 when Ford took a stake in Mazda's recently-opened American assembly plant, creating the shared AutoAlliance factory we know today. In addition, Ford upped its investment in Mazda once again. Further Mazda/Ford collaboration followed in the form of the Ford Probe (the well-known sports coupe based on the MX-6 platform) and the Mercury Tracer (a little-known subcompact based on the 323 chassis). Ford also imported a Korean-built version of the tiny Mazda 121, better known as the Ford Festiva.

More parts sharing followed in the 1990s, most importantly in the 1991-1996 Escort/Tracer line that shared a chassis and one engine option with the Mazda Protege. Mercury also had the Capri convertible, built in Australia on the old 323 platform (like the original Tracer) and using a 1.6-liter Mazda engine. The MX-6/Probe alliance was refreshed during 1993 on an all-new platform, and Mazda replaced its aging B-series pickup with a version of the Ford Ranger for 1994 (a design that continues today).

Then came Asia's economic issues of the late 1990s, which caused much concern in the Japanese auto industry. Mazda was particularly hard hit, having spent much money on new models and the stillborn Amati luxury brand - neither of which ended up bringing much cash into the company. By 1998, Ford saw a unique opportunity and took it, increasing its holdings in Mazda to a controlling (just over 33 percent) share. Mazda was now officially a part of the Ford empire.

In more recent years, Mazda has become a truly integral part of Ford's worldwide operations. New vehicles from Ford and Volvo (the new Euro-market Focus and Volvo S40/V50 lines, specifically) use Mazda platforms underneath, and Mazda engines have found their way into numerous lines.

To Mazda's benefit, Ford's cash infusion has allowed the development of a totally new model line that once again represents the brand's defining spirit - and includes their first new rotary-engined vehicle in years, the RX-8. And Ford's faith in Mazda has been proven by their decision to build the pivotal new Mustang at the industry-leading AutoAlliance plant, right next to the Mazda 6.

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Oh, to clarify another point. Ford currently owns the following foreign brands outright:

Aston Martin
Jaguar
Volvo (automotive operations only; the truck line is still Swedish-owned)
Land Rover

Mazda is still a semi-independent entity, as Ford has not yet purchased the rest of its holdings, but the 33-percent stake does give them control of the Mazda board.
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